Itai Sela - B2 Group - Delray Beach 18 February, 2021, 18:06 0 likes

Considering how expensive these cards are €24 is not that much.  In the US the premium cards are in the $350-$600 range per year and most are metal cards.  Not sure if that will work with a biometric reader on it.

Robin Setty - ACI Worldwide (EMEA) Limited - Watford 19 February, 2021, 09:26 3 likes

But many people already have a card with a biometric reader.  It's called a smartphone.  That's €24 saved.

A Finextra member 19 February, 2021, 10:38 2 likes

By 2026 no one will be using physical cards; it will all be done through their phones.  For free.  

Andrew Smith - RTGS & ClearBank - London 19 February, 2021, 12:41 1 like

Not sure how this is calculated. The rise of payments via phone surely renders this all a bit old school. In addition, even the experiences we have paying by phone will no doubt change in coming years, probably off of card rails full stop.....

A Finextra member 19 February, 2021, 13:46 0 likes

If you can take with you only one: either your wallet, or your phone - which one will you leave at home?

Someone seems to be trying to make qick money by selling to banks the idea (and quantities of the physical cards or equioment to print them in-house) - while the 'future' still lasts 🙄

A Finextra member 19 February, 2021, 13:52 0 likes

Some interesting comments.

I think Biometric on card have a great play for the masses. We "in the industry" as it were may well be up on mobile payments but we aren't the general public -e.g  many of my family wouldn't even dream of using their mobile to pay for anything! but happy with a card (or cash!!).

There are many consumer surveys that concur - card payment (with a shift to contactless) are still much more popular than mobile.

So I think yes bometric on cards will play a great role in making physicial payment more secure and contact free. No: card will not all be gone by 2026. 

Vineet Anand - Company - San Francisco 19 February, 2021, 21:25 0 likes

It will be interesting to see some fraud detterent metrics from these commercial pilots: What is the fraud rate of current chip card transactions or NFC cards? And what is the fraud rate for fingerprint cards? 

Why use fingerprint cards when chip / NFC cards can do the same transaction in a secure manner? Is the sales pitch around giving card user the comfort that transaction is more secure using fingerprint? Also since the pandemic, the users prefer to have less physical contact in tranactions. 

A Finextra member 24 February, 2021, 20:29 0 likes

If we still have physical cards in 2026 I'll be surprised. Cards no longer have signatures, card numbers or  details printed on them and mag stripes are on the way out. It amazes me that we still refer to "Card not present" and that the networks still allow details from the physical card to be used for digital purchases! The only advantage of a card over a smartphone is that it hasn't got a battery to run out. (for now)

What were those "successful commercial pilots" that UBS refer to and who were they successful for?

Itai Sela - B2 Group - Delray Beach 25 February, 2021, 01:11 0 likes

I think some of you are missing key points in why cards are going to be around for a lot longer than you think.  Magstripe cards are no where close to being obsolete..... there is a huge prepaid and gift card market that still uses magstripe (no business case whatsoever to move to chip or the phone).  There are still many acceptance devices that don't accept chip and contactless (US specifically) and may never be upgraded.  Eurpoe could have removed the magstripe years ago but didn't do it - why? was it because the US didn't have chip?  I don't think that was the only reason.....The main point I think we should look at is what does this extra cost bring from a security perspective.  Fingerprint (like PIN) only protects agains lost and stolen and not anything else.  You still need the physical card to be able to do any type of card present fraud.  With most transactions going to CNP and with lost and stolen not being anywhere near scalable from a fraud perspecitve, why spend all this money? This is one of the main reasons there is really limited amount of PIN usage in the US (for credit cards) as it just isn't worth the investment vs the reduction in L&S fraud.